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Re: Rihanna

Postby Jer » 17 Jun 2017, 16:57

Even though I loathe sampling, this track is fire and I can see it exploding
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Re: Rihanna

Postby spicefreak » 17 Jun 2017, 17:04

Jay wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyaI4-5849w

This is going to be huuuuge



Are you kidding me it's terrible??
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Re: Rihanna

Postby Javi » 17 Jun 2017, 17:11

Meh
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Re: Rihanna

Postby kamel » 17 Jun 2017, 17:42

Jay wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyaI4-5849w

This is going to be huuuuge


This gonna be so huuuuuuge :music:
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Re: Rihanna

Postby sammy01 » 17 Jun 2017, 18:08

Rihanna never fails to deliver, another huge hit in coming. Your faves cant and don't.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby Jay » 17 Jun 2017, 18:30

spicefreak wrote:
Jay wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyaI4-5849w

This is going to be huuuuge



Are you kidding me it's terrible??


First day:

iTunes (Top 10):
#1 Anguilla
#1 Antigua and Barbuda
#1 Azerbaijan
#1 Barbados
#1 Bermuda
#1 Cayman Islands
#1 Fiji
#1 France
#1 Ghana
#1 Grenada
#1 Kazakhstan
#1 Kenya
#1 Moldova
#1 Mozambique
#1 Nigeria
#1 Portugal
#1 Saint Kitts and Nevis
#1 Swaziland
#1 The Bahamas
#1 Trinidad and Tobago
#2 United States
#2 United Kingdom
#2 Belize
#2 Canada
#2 Greece
#2 Hungary
#2 Kenya
#2 Namibia
#2 New Zealand
#2 Papua New Guinea
#2 Poland
#2 Romania
#2 Slovakia
#2 United Arab Emirates
#3 Bulgaria
#4 Germany
#4 South Africa
#4 Sweden
#5 Netherlands
#5 Saudi Arabia
#5 Switzerland
#6 Australia
#6 Brazil
#6 Denmark
#6 Philippines
#6 Spain
#7 Israel
#8 Czech Republic
#8 India
#8 Namibia
#10 Luxembourg
#10 Zimbabwe

Spotify (Top 100):
#18 United States
#26 United Kingdom
#32 Canada
#39 Denmark
#40 Greece
#44 Worldwide
#45 Switzerland
#49 Sweden
#50 Ireland
#52 Norway
#52 Portugal
#57 Finland
#64 Belgium
#66 Netherlands
#67 Turkey
#69 Iceland
#72 France
#79 Hungary
#82 Germany
#90 New Zealand
#92 Austria

Music video #1 on YouTube trending and is about to pass 10m views.

An undeniably massive start! Pretty certain that this'll be dominating for the rest of the summer, concurrently with Despacito.

I wonder if more artists will consider Latin to be a bandwagon to jump on now and thus make it the dominant sound in the charts again. I wouldn't mind that, it'd be quite refreshing after the dominance of the future bass genre.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby Jer » 17 Jun 2017, 21:22

Another Latin invasion on its way?

The Latin American charts have been pumping out some bangers in the last few years (Chantaje, La Gozadera, Bailando, Safari etc), so it is no surprise.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby spicefreak » 17 Jun 2017, 21:51

Jay wrote:
spicefreak wrote:
Jay wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyaI4-5849w

This is going to be huuuuge



Are you kidding me it's terrible??


First day:

iTunes (Top 10):
#1 Anguilla
#1 Antigua and Barbuda
#1 Azerbaijan
#1 Barbados
#1 Bermuda
#1 Cayman Islands
#1 Fiji
#1 France
#1 Ghana
#1 Grenada
#1 Kazakhstan
#1 Kenya
#1 Moldova
#1 Mozambique
#1 Nigeria
#1 Portugal
#1 Saint Kitts and Nevis
#1 Swaziland
#1 The Bahamas
#1 Trinidad and Tobago
#2 United States
#2 United Kingdom
#2 Belize
#2 Canada
#2 Greece
#2 Hungary
#2 Kenya
#2 Namibia
#2 New Zealand
#2 Papua New Guinea
#2 Poland
#2 Romania
#2 Slovakia
#2 United Arab Emirates
#3 Bulgaria
#4 Germany
#4 South Africa
#4 Sweden
#5 Netherlands
#5 Saudi Arabia
#5 Switzerland
#6 Australia
#6 Brazil
#6 Denmark
#6 Philippines
#6 Spain
#7 Israel
#8 Czech Republic
#8 India
#8 Namibia
#10 Luxembourg
#10 Zimbabwe

Spotify (Top 100):
#18 United States
#26 United Kingdom
#32 Canada
#39 Denmark
#40 Greece
#44 Worldwide
#45 Switzerland
#49 Sweden
#50 Ireland
#52 Norway
#52 Portugal
#57 Finland
#64 Belgium
#66 Netherlands
#67 Turkey
#69 Iceland
#72 France
#79 Hungary
#82 Germany
#90 New Zealand
#92 Austria

Music video #1 on YouTube trending and is about to pass 10m views.

An undeniably massive start! Pretty certain that this'll be dominating for the rest of the summer, concurrently with Despacito.

I wonder if more artists will consider Latin to be a bandwagon to jump on now and thus make it the dominant sound in the charts again. I wouldn't mind that, it'd be quite refreshing after the dominance of the future bass genre.



Wow no accounting for taste :laugh: Just gave it another listen and I still think it is absolutely dreadful.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby BootyliciousJosh » 17 Jun 2017, 22:28

There are some songs that should never be sampled or covered - this particular Santana included. But that guitar riff was used well. I'm enjoying this song.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby TeddyBear » 19 Jun 2017, 17:16

it sounds utterly terrible...
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Re: Rihanna

Postby Jay » 19 Jun 2017, 19:09

Wild Thoughts is pretty much guaranteed to enter the UK charts at #2 on Friday. It would be Rihanna's 10th #2 hit in the UK if it didn't end up climbing to #1!

Her #2 hits:

Pon de Replay
SOS
Unfaithful
Live Your Life
Russian Roulette
Rude Boy
Love the Way You Lie
Work
This Is What You Came For

If it ended up climbing to #1, it would increase her #1s total to 9. These are her 8 UK chart toppers:

Umbrella
Take a Bow
Run This Town
Only Girl (In the World)
What's My Name?
We Found Love
Diamonds
The Monster

Wild Thoughts will also be her 30th Top 10 hit here!
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Re: Rihanna

Postby sammy01 » 19 Jun 2017, 23:13

Dat Rihanna reign just wont let up
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Re: Rihanna

Postby SpiceWonderland » 20 Jun 2017, 07:17

It's pretty boring I think. I'm not familiar with the sample, either.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby BootyliciousJosh » 20 Jun 2017, 07:38

SpiceWonderland wrote:It's pretty boring I think. I'm not familiar with the sample, either.

The sample is at 0:54 seconds.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby Peter » 20 Jun 2017, 12:37

Wow, I actually really like it!

To answer one's question: I bet it will become a trend now to go Latin, after both Justin and Rihanna now recorded them Latino-influenced singles, it will be boom like in late '90s with Ricky Martin, Enrique Iglesias and even our own Geri and her 'Mi Chico Latino';)
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Re: Rihanna

Postby FiaSpice » 20 Jun 2017, 22:14

I can only hear Maria Maria on this track!

dj khaled looks a lot like the guy from the tax app ad!
edit: it's him, I rthough it was a real guy with a fitness business.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby Jay » 28 Jun 2017, 13:34

'Wild Thoughts' ended up entering at #3 because the Artists for Grenfell single made it to #1, but I reckon in a couple of weeks 'Wild Thoughts' could be #1!

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In other news, 'Umbrella' has now shifted over a million units in the UK when taking streaming into account. 867,000 sales (CDs/Downloads) & 150,000 streaming units = 1,017,000.

These are some totals with streaming units included (and I've also included the 'sales only' figure after the song title)

1,670,000 - 'We Found Love' (1,410,000)
1,510,000 - 'Love the Way You Lie' (1,250,000)
1,444,000 - 'This Is What You Came For' (469,000)
1,335,000 - 'Diamonds' (1,100,000)
1,274,000 - 'Only Girl (In the World)' (1,160,000)
1,017,000 - 'Umbrella' (867,000)

(So almost 1,000,000 of 'TIWYCF' sales total comes from streaming - that means that the song is approaching 100,000,000 streams in the UK)
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Re: Rihanna

Postby sammy01 » 21 Jul 2017, 20:40

So Rihanna is #1 in the UK again, poor your faves! When you think of the struggles of Katy Perry (chained to the bottom of the charts) and Lady Gaga (million reasons not to chart) Rihanna wins again.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby Jay » 22 Jul 2017, 13:52

I mean it's nice that Rihanna's finally achieved another #1, after nearly 4 years & a few near misses, so as a fan I'm happy in this respect... but it has to be pointed out that this is the most dubiously earned #1 in UK chart history! This is because 'Wild Thoughts' is not actually the best selling download or the most streamed song this week!

I know you'll know all about why this is, Sammy, so this explanatory reply is for others who may not realise why & are interested. I'm putting this in spoiler tags, because it's a long post. :p

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'Wild Thoughts' climbing to #1 this week isn't because it's the best seller of the week - it's because of new chart rules recently coming into effect, which has negatively impacted on 'Despacito'. 'Despacito' is truly the most bought/most listened to this week, but because it's been declining in sales for 3 weeks (against the overall market), Official Charts Company have now changed its streaming ratio from 150:1 to 300:1. This rule was introduced earlier this month.

This week:

Wild Thoughts: 36,084 streaming units (from 150:1 ratio) + 15,224 downloads = 51,308

Despacito: 20,824 streaming units (from 300:1 ratio) + 25,751 downloads = 46,575

From January 2017 to the end of June 2017, the singles chart used the 150:1 streaming ratio for all songs. So, Despacito would have had 41,649 from streaming, under these old rules. Combined with its downloads, Despacito would have had 67,399 sales altogether this week - which would have comfortably made it #1.

So, Rihanna is clearly at #1 on a technicality. To sum it up - the rules have made it so the real best seller/streamed of the week finds itself at #2. That's kind of crazy.


I'm coming to terms with the fact that the Official Charts Company is a huge mess, and in fact has been since the introduction of streaming in 2014. OCC keeps changing the goal posts of their rules, to the point that the singles chart doesn't have any particular meaning to it any more. What does it actually represent at this point? The ordering has become rather random, so it can't be said any more that it resembles an order of best sellers.


When it comes to streaming, there's actually 3 different ratios that OCC take into account:

"100:1 streaming ratio" - used for a song's total sales figure.

"150:1 streaming ratio" - taken into account for the single's chart, for a limited time. At least 10 weeks, or longer, depending on if a song is increasing or declining week on week.

"300:1 streaming ratio" - taken into account for the singles chart, if its above 10 weeks in the chart & has experienced 3 weeks of decline.

^ In my opinion this is very messy, and makes it really difficult to compare like for like.


So when it comes to Despacito... although it only has 20,824 streaming sales contributing to the singles chart this week (300:1 ratio), it will actually have 62,473 streaming sales going towards its running sales total this week (100:1 ratio). So including downloads... for the chart, 46,575 sales are taken into account this week, but for its running total it is 88,224. That's a large discrepancy.


"100:1 ratio" for total sales has led to some ridiculously inflated total sales figures. For instance, Ed Sheeran's 'Shape of You' is currently on over 2,664,000. That's enough for it to currently be regarded as being the 4th best selling single in the UK of all-time, which I find to be absurd. It's currently still within the UK Top 20 singles chart, so it should have no trouble exceeding 3 million eventually - probably before the end of 2017, which would push it up to 3rd best seller. Approximately only 735,000 of that 2,664,000 comes from download sales.

In summary - UK charts = mess. x


As for Katy Perry... she's currently at #4 in the charts with 'Feels'. Yes she's only featured on it, but Rihanna is only a feature on 'Wild Thoughts' too, so that's directly comparable - so Katy has a current hit. Katy also had a big hit earlier in the year with Chained to the Rhythm, which is currently the 27th best selling single of the year in the UK, and went gold. Bon Appetit obviously bombed (the first true flop of her career) while Swish Swish hasn't properly impacted yet to be able to fully judge it. I know bringing Katy into the equation was a flippant remark, but it's not like Rihanna hasn't suffered similar or worse flops like Bon Appetit in her career & then recovered. So for all we know it's a temporary blip for Katy, and 'Feels' proves people aren't against her if they're able to connect with the song.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby Peter » 22 Jul 2017, 16:36

/\ that's interesting again (it always is, Jay!). Thanks for sharing! What are the other bestselling singles of all the time in UK then? You got top 20 or 40 of that available, please?
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Re: Rihanna

Postby Jay » 22 Jul 2017, 16:49

Thanks Peter! :D I have this list but it's a few months out of date unfortunately:

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1 Elton John - Something About the Way You Look Tonight / Candle in the Wind 97 (#1, 1997) 4,920,000 [Est: February 2017]
2 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas? (#1, 1984) 3,960,000 [Est: February 2017] Streams Added
3 Mark Ronson ft. Bruno Mars - Uptown Funk! (#1, 2014) 2,602,000 [23/03/17] Streams Added
4 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody (#1, 1975/1991) 2,520,000 [Est: February 2017] Streams Added
5 Pharrell Williams - Happy (#1, 2013) 2,476,000 [Est: February 2017] Streams Added
6 Ed Sheeran - Thinking Out Loud (#1, 2014) 2,347,000 [23/03/17] Streams Added
7 Wham! - Last Christmas / Everything She Wants (#2, 1984) 2,203,000 [12/01/17] Streams Added
8 Drake ft. Wizkid & Kyla - One Dance (#1, 2016) 2,116,000 [23/03/17] Streams Added
9 Wings - Mull of Kintyre / Girls' School (#1, 1977) 2,097,000 [Est: February 2017]
10 Clean Bandit ft. Jess Glynne - Rather Be (#1, 2014) 2,096,000 [02/02/17] Streams Added

11 John Travolta & Olivia Newton-John - You're the One That I Want (#1, 1978) 2,051,000 [Est: February 2017]
12 John Legend - All of Me (#2, 2013) 2,037,000 [23/03/17] Streams Added
13 Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Relax (#1, 1983) 2,030,000 [Est: February 2017]
14 Boney M - Rivers of Babylon / Brown Girl in the Ring (#1, 1978) 2,030,000 [Est: February 2017]
15 Justin Bieber - Sorry (#1, 2015) 2,025,000 [23/03/17] Streams Added
16 Boney M - Mary's Boy Child / Oh My Lord (#1, 1978) 1,980,000 [Est: February 2017] Streams Added
17 Justin Bieber - Love Yourself (#1, 2015) 1,927,000 [23/03/17] Streams Added
18 The Beatles - She Loves You (#1, 1963) 1,925,000 [Est: February 2017]
19 Cher - Believe (#1, 1998) 1,905,000 [OCC: May 2017] Streams Added
20 Wet Wet Wet - Love is All Around (#1, 1994) 1,900,000 [OCC: February 2017]

21 Adele - Someone Like You (#1, 2011) 1,895,000 [23/02/17] Streams Added
22 Robson Green & Jerome Flynn - Unchained Melody / White Cliffs of Dover (#1, 1995) 1,860,000 [OCC: February 2017]
23 Stevie Wonder - I Just Called to Say I Love You (#1, 1984) 1,858,000 [Est: February 2017]
24 Hozier - Take Me to Church (#2, 2013) 1,856,000 [23/03/17] Streams Added
25 Bryan Adams - (Everything I Do) I Do It for You (#1, 1991) 1,855,000 [Est: February 2017]
26 Avicii - Wake Me Up (#1, 2013) 1,840,000 [Est: February 2017] Streams Added
27 Aqua - Barbie Girl (#1, 1997) 1,833,000 [Est: February 2017]
28 Robin Thicke ft. T.I. & Pharrell Williams - Blurred Lines (#1, 2013) 1,825,000 [Est: February 2017] Streams Added
29 OMI - Cheerleader (#1, 2014) 1,800,000 [BPI: March 2017] Streams Added
30 The Beatles - I Want to Hold Your Hand (#1, 1963) 1,796,000 [Est: February 2017]

31 Will Young - Anything is Possible/Evergreen (#1, 2002) 1,795,000 [Est: February 2017]
32 Adele - Hello (#1, 2015) 1,750,000 [23/03/17] Streams Added
33 John Lennon - Imagine (#1, 1975) 1,740,000 [Est: February 2017]
34 Survivor - Eye of the Tiger (#1, 1982) 1,740,000 [Est: February 2017] Streams Added
35 Justin Bieber - What Do You Mean? (#1, 2015) 1,739,000 [23/03/17] Streams Added
36 Oasis - Wonderwall (#2, 1995) 1,703,000 [09/03/17] Streams Added
37 Daft Punk ft. Pharrell Williams - Get Lucky (#1, 2013) 1,690,000 [Est: February 2017] Streams Added
38 Passenger - Let Her Go (#2, 2012) 1,690,000 [Est: February 2017] Streams Added
39 Puff Daddy & Faith Evans - I'll Be Missing You (#1, 1997) 1,685,000 [Est: February 2017]
40 John Travolta & Olivia Newton-John - Summer Nights (#1, 1978) 1,676,000 [OCC: June 2017] Streams Added

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Re: Rihanna

Postby Fenrik » 22 Jul 2017, 17:56

sammy01 wrote:So Rihanna is #1 in the UK again, poor your faves! When you think of the struggles of Katy Perry (chained to the bottom of the charts) and Lady Gaga (million reasons not to chart) Rihanna wins again.


I can´t help it, but everytime I read your posts, I read them with South Park`s Cartman voice... :Dizzy:

It´s posts like this that makes the whole forum dislike you. It really shows what a fucking brat you are.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby sammy01 » 22 Jul 2017, 23:23

The fact is Rihanna is number 1, she topped the charts when cd singles were still important, when downloads took over and now when streaming is king.

And the chart rules are what they are, she didnt make them and she didnt use a gaga tactic like have the song constantly on sale, it rose to the top by being popular and by the rules set out by the charts company.
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Re: Rihanna

Postby addicted2you » 23 Jul 2017, 03:21

Why you acting like Rihanna has never had a flop before?

Bitch better have my money #27
American Oxygen #71
Man Down #54
Right Now #36
Pour It Up #43
Nothing Is Promised #64
Sledgehammer #69
Needed Me #38
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Re: Rihanna

Postby BootyliciousJosh » 23 Jul 2017, 05:05

^ Are those UK charts? Idk why I thought Needed Me charted higher there.

The majority of her singles have charted pretty well in the US.
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