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Postby Fenrik » 19 May 2017, 23:40

Why haven`t people jizzed to this in here yet?? :laugh:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUM98jlF6yr ... well&hl=en
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Postby simby » 20 May 2017, 10:30

Fenrik wrote:Why haven`t people jizzed to this in here yet?? :laugh:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUM98jlF6yr ... well&hl=en

Thank you!
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Postby DannyDirnt » 20 May 2017, 16:24

Forever is a quality album, the lyrics are good, but the flop was deserved. They completely ignored it and did zero promotion, so they got exactly what their effort was worth. However, had they promoted it properly, it would have sold like hot cakes just like the other two albums. Holler/LLLTW went straight to number one and, even if we can't count it because it was released two years before, so did Goodbye. The girls even had more potential hits in store: IYWHSF, Tell Me Why, Oxigen... Forever could have been a step in the right direction, towards evolving with time and being more recognised as musicians and seen as less of a marketing product. But they didn't bother.
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Postby The Spice Girls » 20 May 2017, 17:18

/\ exactly.
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Postby PeruvianSpice » 20 May 2017, 20:22

I think it's a proper álbum but it was such a drastic change that I don't think promo would've done much.

Probably sold a bit more, yes... but not like a total success...
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Postby onebigfan » 20 May 2017, 20:27

Fenrik wrote:Why haven`t people jizzed to this in here yet?? :laugh:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUM98jlF6yr ... well&hl=en


I was wondering the same thing, that was amazing to watch, such a joy to see, love how she looks back behind her just like she does in the original video. I'm pretty sure she got her position on the steps wrong though, that wasn't the exact step she positioned at, but close enough.
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Postby Andreas » 20 May 2017, 20:40

I was never a big fan of "Forever" but I'll be the first to admit the album grew on me. Certain songs are very good, and some are really among the worst they did (even compared to "Voodoo"). Back then it really showed they all had very different priorities. Hardly no promo (I mean, how many performances did they do?), and the little promo they did was divided and not as a group. It didn't look good.

Melanie C was off doing her own thing and struggling with her problems, at the same time she has admitted on record she didn't feel like it was the Spice Girls anymore, and I don't think she meant only because of Geri not being part of it, it was a bigger picture. I definitely think Mel B tried to be "leader" and she was definitely not being very supportive towards Melanie C and what she was going through. Victoria seemed a bit nonchalant about it all, like she was above it and Emma kind of just along for the ride. I don't think their look at the time did her any favours.

And - in my opinion- half of that album hasn't aged well. It sounds very stuck in the sound that was 1999/2000/2001. Whereas the two first albums (especially the first) sounds very timeless pop. And that I think comes down to them wanting to go down the Destiny's Child-road. Which didn't leave much originality, there were already a lot of Destiny's Child lookalike bands, there was no need for another one.
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Re: Spice Girls: Reunion Rumours & Random Discussion Thread

Postby iaintiffin » 21 May 2017, 08:39

The first album is heavily R&B influenced then went full pop on SW so I don't think Forever is as big of a departure as some make out.
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Postby schizophonic_spice » 21 May 2017, 12:13

^^^The RnB influence on Spice has a very different feel to the more generic RnB sound on Forever though.
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Postby OnYourRadar » 21 May 2017, 12:35

i find Spice the most dated sounding album of theirs. Spiceworld is the superior record for me.
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Postby The Spice Girls » 21 May 2017, 14:04

OnYourRadar wrote:i find Spice the most dated sounding album of theirs. Spiceworld is the superior record for me.


I always thought that, too.
Then realised that Spice is actually timeless, followed by Forever and SpiceWorld is the only one which sounds bit dated to me. As many people as many opinions it looks.
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Postby DannyDirnt » 21 May 2017, 15:03

I don't find any of their records "timeless". I definitely don't see any of the three being released today. Both Spice and Spiceworld scream 90s from the top of their lungs. I think the main difference lays in the memories we have associated with the records. If the Forever era had had tons of group promo and a tour and had been filled with friendship and fun, we would certainly see the album in a different way. But because the girls themselves have always ignored the existence of Forever, it feels as if it didn't count, almost as if it was a leaked unofficial one. For me anyway.
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Postby budhi » 21 May 2017, 15:25

I dont even want their music to sound timeless. I love that very obvious 90's sound
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Postby Hannes84 » 21 May 2017, 15:47

onebigfan wrote:
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felx wrote:oh my....

YES their songs were silly (lyrically)

but they were young!!!!!

Now they are in their 40....if they cant wrote normal lyrics that's big problem....

back then they were young and silly, loveable, now just sad and laughable.... :laugh:

that is the different!

Dude, it's the Spice Girls. Not Adele. What happened when they went more "mature" and sexy with their imagine during the Forever era? They flopped. It wasn't fun anymore. It was not care-free. It was like Brandy or Janet Jackson. And that was NOT why Spice Girls were famous and selling shitload of albums. What people want is songs like Song for Her, not songs like Tell Me Why. That's why the feedback has been mainly positive this time around. Only some fans and fans who work at news papers have had a lot to whine about.


I agree, the Spice Girls are totally about having fun. Another reason Headlines flopped too, it wasn't what the fans or the public wanted at the time, we wanted them to return with a fun new record that would catch everyone's attention again, instead we got a boring ballad that was something Adele might have been able to make a number 1 hit of. And don't even get me started on that video ...

Absolutely. I mentioned Adele simply because she is everything BUT fun. Not because I like her. (I actually avoid her music the best as I can lol).

Some people will blame Geri's departure but we all know what happened with Headlines, while she was there. It was not the lack of promotion either, it was the music and the content of it. It was boring, and too late for the genre. The whole R&B thing was already dying off when Forever got released. In 1997 it might've worked, but music genre had gone more pop-sounding by 2000. It was just another R&B album with only a few stand out tracks. As I said, the casual fans (which is not us) want fun, care-free and catchy music from these girls. Voodoo is up-beat but it's a leftover. I'm surprised they even put it on the GH album. That's how bad it is.
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Postby Savanna » 21 May 2017, 20:21

iaintiffin wrote:The first album is heavily R&B influenced then went full pop on SW so I don't think Forever is as big of a departure as some make out.


The R&B 'sound' on Forever is different than the one on Spice. Forever was produced by American R&B producers who had worked with Destiny's Child, Toni Braxton and others. When Darkchild produced Forever, he didn't deviate at all from what he normally produces. Nothing on Spice sounds remotely like Darkchild.
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Postby DannyDirnt » 21 May 2017, 23:13

I still think Voodoo is a better comeback song than Headlines. It's a bit empty lyric-wise, but it's not like Headlines is their best song ever, and I think that sonically it's a fun and spicy song. I like how every girl gets to sing, and no one can deny that it's catchy. I might get murdered for this though :laugh:
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Postby kamel » 21 May 2017, 23:16

that vodoo song is horrible
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Postby Fenrik » 22 May 2017, 16:57

The only thing that`s bad with Voodoo, imo, is the chorus.
The verses are great! And fun! :D
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Postby PoshInMaine » 22 May 2017, 18:41

KingOfSpiceWorld wrote:
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schizophonic_spice wrote:Due to streaming it's hard to determine what could be a hit song in this day.

However with some more production work and mastering of the vocals I definetly could see Song for Her as a hit song with decent promotion. It has a wonderful chorus.



The chorus is great! It was stuck in my head for days. The verses could have used more work though...


The chorus was catchy but far from great. The lyrics are poor and the music production is something coming with a time machine from the 90s.


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Postby Andreas » 22 May 2017, 21:37

Fenrik wrote:The only thing that`s bad with Voodoo, imo, is the chorus.
The verses are great! And fun! :D

I agree. The verses are very catchy and fun. Very much in the original spirit of Spice Girls-positivity! But the chorus, on the other hand... That was a choice.
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Postby PeruvianSpice » 22 May 2017, 22:03

IMO, the production was bad...
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Postby Fenrik » 22 May 2017, 22:26

Andreas wrote:
Fenrik wrote:The only thing that`s bad with Voodoo, imo, is the chorus.
The verses are great! And fun! :D

I agree. The verses are very catchy and fun. Very much in the original spirit of Spice Girls-positivity! But the chorus, on the other hand... That was a choice.


Yeah the chorus dont live up to the expectations that the verses are giving us. A big let down. I do sometimes listen to this song though. :D
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Postby DannyDirnt » 22 May 2017, 23:31

I think overall it's an enjoyable song. Maybe a different production would have helped the song stand out a bit more. But the song structure really is a shame. They blurt out all of the verses at the very start of the song and then there's nothing but chorus repetitions and Mel C's part. I think separating Emma and Geri's verse from Mel B and Victoria's with a chorus would have been a more interesting option. Maybe even a "second round" of verses. It does make for a nice album track though, but with some changes it could be a great Spice hit.
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Postby ep7210 » 23 May 2017, 03:19

DannyDirnt wrote:I think overall it's an enjoyable song. Maybe a different production would have helped the song stand out a bit more. But the song structure really is a shame. They blurt out all of the verses at the very start of the song and then there's nothing but chorus repetitions and Mel C's part. I think separating Emma and Geri's verse from Mel B and Victoria's with a chorus would have been a more interesting option. Maybe even a "second round" of verses. It does make for a nice album track though, but with some changes it could be a great Spice hit.



it would have sounded much nicer live...if only
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Postby KingOfSpiceWorld » 23 May 2017, 05:07

PeruvianSpice wrote:IMO, the production was bad...

Finally something you don't like about them...
But honestly the production on voodoo is bad but song for her is great?

Like people before me mention, the verses are amazing, fun and empowering, poppy and spicy. Philosophical but girlpowerish without taking themselves too seriously. But the chorus is dreadful. Hemetic. Almost as bad as song for her and stop.

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